Banned?

[Orcone^]

Well, it started when i joined the RS reverse GG server earlier, the map was tango and TheBabySnatcher was there. Chemo joined and added a lot of bots and apparently spectated me. Many rounds past and TheBabySnatcher goes to eat dinner. I continue to play assuming that Chemo is still on spec. Around where i was on the first few pistol levels, Vash and some other people join, including Bob. Then, i nade bob and later knife some guy, then immediately kicked. I rejoin and i am replied by Chemo saying that he made a demo and that he thinks that i hack. After many rounds of playing on this very small map, i was kicked and banned right after i was kicked consecutively.

Although, i can see why he thinks that i have hacks. While playing with the bots, i went around the same way and most of the time the bots are in the middle shooting the bots on my team. I circle around the map checking behind the middle and then towards middle shooting down every bot. Then when it comes to bots being no where in sight, i jump around and usually wait for a teamate bot to run into an enemy bot. So then a red dot appears on the radar and i know where they are. I also know that when a teamate dies somewhere, I can assume that the bot is there. But, when there are no bots on my side, I hear foot steps and kill them that way, or luckily run into one. I hope this clears that up. Let me know if I need more details.

[SSLJ]

Hi.

I banned you.

Tell me why I should rethink this decision?

There have been many suspicious incidents with you. I have a demo I can dig out. There are a lot of questions floating around about you. I'm tired of dealing with stupid players, jerk players, or hacking players, and you fall in to more than one of those categories. It is a permanent ban, but perhaps I will rethink this. The others can chip in as well. I just don't think you are the type of player we want on our server.

-LJ.

edit:

just looked at your stats. 23% head shot, 2.37 k:d.

it's been rare we've seen a player like that who isn't hacking. Kato has a 1.2 k:d and a 28% head shot.

Think about it.

[Orcone^]

This probably wont help, but I don't hack. Tell me examples of suspicious actions and ill try to answer of how i got to that point maybe also send me the demo. Although i do admit, i do pull off some "bs" incidents at times, sometimes its luck.

Edit: Well to be honest, my KDR ratio would not be so high if players such as vash or conky played at the same times as me, because it would be harder to get consecutive kills and not die. I dont want to be offensive but, there are plenty of not as expierenced players that play there. I know what you mean by my KDR too, but i can infer that people like Kato only play on the server when there are other people playing there such as Vash, who is experienced. There has been very few times that i completed a full game with those kind of people in the game.

[Chunkybob]

;25627']
just looked at your stats. 23% head shot, 2.37 k:d.
it's been rare we've seen a player like that who isn't hacking.


Not only this but when you are so inconsistant of wtf pwning and then not being able to hit someone not moving makes it even more suspicious.

[Orcone^]

;25632']Not only this but when you are so inconsistant of wtf pwning and then not being able to hit someone not moving makes it even more suspicious.

We all have "retarded moments" you know? And the "omg i pulled that off" moments... I have an inconsitancy because either:

A.) Someone saw where i go every round and counters me somewhere

B.) I am alone and get rushed by many enemies

C.) "retarded moment"

etc etc

I also over react sometimes. Such as, i run in a room turn around and see an opposing enemy, i always seem to panic and immediately start spraying as if they see me. Though, sometimes i miss most shots and end up dying.

Edit: I forgot to mention, it could also be in a disadvantage of guns that causes inconsistency. Ex. Glock vs AK. Shotgun vs scout long distance. Some rounds i find a convienient situation and take it and end up owning, whether i pick up an AK or not.

[jake_aka_s4l]

We all have "retarded moments" you know? And the "omg i pulled that off" moments... I have an inconsitancy because either:

C.) "retarded moment"

welcome to my world :D

[FearlessG1]

i have not seen you play, however i think the KD ratio can be a result of baiting, just as he baits his teammate bots, im sure he baits everyone else. my style of play in GG is rush in and kill as many as i can, his style seems to be wait till the smoke is clear then play cleanup crew on whatever low health, reloading opponents remain. Again, i have never played with or against you but from reading your post, you seem to be a bait whore. (like some people i know who run around with their knives out waiting to get someone who just finished a gun fight with someone else) so either that, or you need to upgrade your aimbot to get you more than a 25% accuracy....

[Randy Lahey[RS]]

Orc, I don't think you hack, nor do I have any suspicions that you do. I think you are a great player. Playing against better players can only make the others around you better. I love that situation in COD 4 and Battlefield 2. Those are two games I strive to be good at. Now CSS, I couldn't give a rat's ass. I suck, but I do get much enjoyment from playing. When someone like you does come on the server, I can't enjoy it. There are so many gametypes for source, turbo gungame, Cal, etc, etc. I just don't think you're a good fit for our server, it's meant to be fun. Kill one person then pull out your knife. Not keep your gun no matter what and get a ridiculous K:D ratio. I can see where LJ is coming from and I will back him. I feel like this is one of those cases where the ban might be necessary, not because you hack, but just because you are uber good. We had this problem with Skywind (you have 8 friends on your steam and he is one), ask him about it sometime.
I hope you undertsand, but please, go away, you're too good. Tell your friends you can't play here because you are, they'll laugh I'm sure. Best of luck man, and if it does get lifted, you probably won't be seeing me around when your on anyway. Unless I'm allowed to abuse admin again and blind you ;)

[Rain]

can someone send me the demo of him LJ? we have played with him a number of times and even with us during some cal scrims just interclan stuff and while we might not like his style of play as fear said. He has not hacked from what i have seen. Just to put my two sense in!!!

[FearlessG1]

regarding randy's comment, try playing sober for once!!!! lol, luv ya randy, but skill, or the appearance of it, shouldnt get people banned. rain would have been banned a LONG time ago if this were the case.

[BMAsRevenge[RS]]

O man here it goes again. Look I already went through a very similar situation like this awhile back with as Randy mentioned above "Skywind" I did not think skywind hacked. I have played with you before and don't think you hack either. In fact being I have played with both of you I would say either I have gotten much better lately or Skywind is better than you. I have played against you and although you are better than I its not by much.

The problem comes in at a few different points.
1- Skill level - Most in our clan are at average to above average skill level. There are a few that are really good but they seldom play on server due to the very same problem. Not mentioning names but the members know.

2- Play Style - This is a gungame server not Cal. While uber K/D ratios are nice to have it is not the object. As Randy said above its a fun style server. The first thing I do after I get my first kill is look at my health if its above 55 I start running around with my knife often getting killed by someone shooting. If its below 55 I'll keep my gun up but look for the chance to knife whenever possible.

3- The Guns - Occasionaly we all do it even me and this one actual pisses me off. If your on the lets say the USP then use the USP not someones AK47 that you picked up. Killing someone with a gun you are not on serves no other purpose in Gungame than to whore your K/D ratio. In doing so you ruin the fun for others.

Are you guilty of any of those? I would say a little of all of them.

That combination above is what leads to many of the members here getting fustrated when playing with you. There is nothing you can do about your skill level other than help others increase there own. The other two however can be changed. I would like to lift this ban but I need to discuss this with members being they are the ones that play and enjoy this server. It also depends on if you can understand the above.

[SSLJ]

I play for fun, I'm not very good, but I'm not terrible. People who play cheaply irritate the snot out of me, and they generally end up in situations like this.

Plus any friend of Skywind's has questionable taste anyway.

Orcone: Either play for fun and stop being a retard, or find a new server.

[Orcone^]

;25652']I play for fun, I'm not very good, but I'm not terrible. People who play cheaply irritate the snot out of me, and they generally end up in situations like this.

Plus any friend of Skywind's has questionable taste anyway.

Orcone: Either play for fun and stop being a retard, or find a new server.

I do play for fun, this server is extremely fun because of good register, good knifing server as well. I prefer your maps as well, because its a lot easier to get kills and not die.

[SSLJ]

What's your steam id.

[SSLJ]

And stop playing against the bots. Start playing the lead on your team instead of the janitor. The only cool janitor is the one from "Scrubs"

[Orcone^]

;25649']O man here it goes again. Look I already went through a very similar situation like this awhile back with as Randy mentioned above "Skywind" I did not think skywind hacked. I have played with you before and don't think you hack either. In fact being I have played with both of you I would say either I have gotten much better lately or Skywind is better than you. I have played against you and although you are better than I its not by much.

The problem comes in at a few different points.
1- Skill level - Most in our clan are at average to above average skill level. There are a few that are really good but they seldom play on server due to the very same problem. Not mentioning names but the members know.

2- Play Style - This is a gungame server not Cal. While uber K/D ratios are nice to have it is not the object. As Randy said above its a fun style server. The first thing I do after I get my first kill is look at my health if its above 55 I start running around with my knife often getting killed by someone shooting. If its below 55 I'll keep my gun up but look for the chance to knife whenever possible.

3- The Guns - Occasionaly we all do it even me and this one actual pisses me off. If your on the lets say the USP then use the USP not someones AK47 that you picked up. Killing someone with a gun you are not on serves no other purpose in Gungame than to whore your K/D ratio. In doing so you ruin the fun for others.

Are you guilty of any of those? I would say a little of all of them.

That combination above is what leads to many of the members here getting fustrated when playing with you. There is nothing you can do about your skill level other than help others increase there own. The other two however can be changed. I would like to lift this ban but I need to discuss this with members being they are the ones that play and enjoy this server. It also depends on if you can understand the above.

Well for the guns, i kill with the usp first then look for a better one and i have to use a gun on knife level, no matter what because im always gunned and knifed, its happened too often. I can deal with only using the gun on my level though. Also.. about Skywind... Thats me, I wanted to see what would happen if it was another "person" other than Skywind, which i thought my character was just hated. the Skywind account thats on my friends list, i gave to my friend whose account got banned(TheBabySnatcher) because of my other friend who wanted to use his account to use his account and it got banned. Then a different friend quit CS:S so i used his account for Orcone^. Didnt play CS again until i got his account. Pretty sure you wont let me play on the GG server now, although it would be nice if i can just play there to do knife fights, probably not. Also... I'd like to play cal if possible, if not thats ok, at least im convinced that i wasnt banned for "hacking" this time.

[Orcone^]

;25655']And stop playing against the bots. Start playing the lead on your team instead of the janitor. The only cool janitor is the one from "Scrubs"

I only played with the bots on tango is because Chemo was there, and i assumed he wanted me to stay. Plus, most of the time when good players are there its already late at night in the week day, and i cant play then. Youll find my steam ID in the GG stats part of the site.

[BMAsRevenge[RS]]

LOL,

Actualy I thought it was you but wasn't sure. I even mentioned this to a few members last night. It really doesn't change anything to me. There is a difference between this time and last you seem to have reduced what I mentioned above.

Look at it this way:

Lets say there is 16 people playing on each team. That means there are 8 on the other team and you have 7 teamates. If you focuse on just killing by picking up a better gun and the fact that you are one of the better players what happens?

You end up killing 6 or 7 of the players on the other team. That means that one 6 or 7 players on the other team get fustrated because they don't get a kill AND all your teamate get pissed because you took all the kills.

By sticking to use the gun your on it makes it more difficult to kill that many on the other team leaving more for your teamates. Don't worry about dieing its part of the game.

Remeber there are 15 other people trying to play too.

PS: LJ his steam id is : STEAM_0:0:10648491

[Orcone^]

;25658']LOL,

Actualy I thought it was you but wasn't sure. I even mentioned this to a few members last night. It really doesn't change anything to me. There is a difference between this time and last you seem to have reduced what I mentioned above.

Look at it this way:

Lets say there is 16 people playing on each team. That means there are 8 on the other team and you have 7 teamates. If you focuse on just killing by picking up a better gun and the fact that you are one of the better players what happens?

You end up killing 6 or 7 of the players on the other team. That means that one 6 or 7 players on the other team get fustrated because they don't get a kill AND all your teamate get pissed because you took all the kills.

By sticking to use the gun your on it makes it more difficult to kill that many on the other team leaving more for your teamates. Don't worry about dieing its part of the game.

Remeber there are 15 other people trying to play too.

PS: LJ his steam id is : STEAM_0:0:10648491

Ive never thought it about it that way, ive always thought it as "Don't hesitate and do your best possible" But, usually my killing spree starts when everyone is dead. I also have a habit of wanting to be the best, but ill try to do most of what you said except maybe the knife part when you are getting gunned, reason for that is because the knife fights are one the fun things i find on the server. Also there are a few other differences i made. I did not camp the roofs of maps, I did not argue a lot to admins so I just said sorry, and other things.

[SSLJ]

Orcone/skywind.

You will be unbanned. Take this opportunity to think about why you have been singled out under two different names and banned. Think long and hard about it.

[Orcone^]

;25660']Orcone/skywind.

You will be unbanned. Take this opportunity to think about why you have been singled out under two different names and banned. Think long and hard about it.

Not much to think about, but ill try to die more, knife more, not pick up new guns other than knife level so i dont get cheaply knifed, and the other things you have told me.

Also... I can still play cal with you people?

[BMAsRevenge[RS]]

but ill try to die more

LOL I didn't mean it that way. What I mean is take that extra risk. You said you enjoy the knifing. So after you got that first kill don't worry about trying to see how many more you can kill. Instead try to double or triple level by knifing or knifing the other guy back. Sure its easier to just headshot that guy on the other team from across the map but think of the challenge of trying to sneak across the map and knife him. Yes you may get shot in the process by him or someone else but the challenge makes it so worth it when you do.

[Orcone^]

Alright, ill use your 55 hp above or below rule when doing that.

[Orcone^]

;25640']i have not seen you play, however i think the KD ratio can be a result of baiting, just as he baits his teammate bots, im sure he baits everyone else. my style of play in GG is rush in and kill as many as i can, his style seems to be wait till the smoke is clear then play cleanup crew on whatever low health, reloading opponents remain. Again, i have never played with or against you but from reading your post, you seem to be a bait whore. (like some people i know who run around with their knives out waiting to get someone who just finished a gun fight with someone else) so either that, or you need to upgrade your aimbot to get you more than a 25% accuracy....

Oh i didnt see this post before. And no i do not bait my teamates that are actual players. I only baited my bots because the enemy were bots and the whole game were bots. When there are players, i just use my ears and such

[FearlessG1]

lies, you bait. just like skywind used to...... wanna play cal huh... better learn to play as a team first. you are welcome to scrim with us if you are willing to not turn it into a fishing game...

[Orcone^]

I dont remember baiting, I usually go in a different direction where my teammates are going, and yes I should learn how to play as a team.

[DA BEARS[RS]]

Didn't "banned" mean banned? Now it's happening again? You all know as much as I do, what is going to happen...

[glenquagmire]

I say no way, why unban this guy after he has intentionally tried to deceive us, and given his account to another banned player? This is a no-brainer. He is just going to cause more headaches. I can't understand why we are now just going to overlook this. Am I wrong? Does anyone else see what I'm saying here? Maybe I'm nuts.

[jake_aka_s4l]

i feel ya glen

[Orcone^]

;25672']I say no way, why unban this guy after he has intentionally tried to deceive us, and given his account to another banned player? This is a no-brainer. He is just going to cause more headaches. I can't understand why we are now just going to overlook this. Am I wrong? Does anyone else see what I'm saying here? Maybe I'm nuts.

I gave my account to someone whose account was banned because of one of my other friends who used his account to scam an account for himself. He himself did nothing bad.

[DA BEARS[RS]]

"And this one time at band camp..." The way I look at this situation is: This shouldn't even be an issue, you have been banned, 2 TIMES, more than 1 of your "friends" has also been banned, you and your "buddys" are doing things decent/fair/nice people do not like. And not to mention, you come back into our servers after creating so much problems, under a different steam account, knowing that you are not welcome (hence the BAN), but yet you come back and here we go again.......

The way I see solving our problem is banning you from the forums, so next time you can't post in the "unban me" section.

Let's be realistic, we all know if you are unbanned, each and every one of us will be waiting for you to do something stupid, and you will, then you'll be banned again.

Then a couple of months later, you'll be back under a different name/account, and we'll go through this again... Stop me if I'm wrong.

Example: I work security for a local club/bar, if I go and "ban" somebody from the place, that means they're done, PERIOD. If they come back a month later with a different haircut, that doesn't mean they are ok to come back in.

And now here comes the part where you try and profess how you've changed, and how you will try to be a better person, and hug trees and soforth.....

[RS]BEARS LAW Has a nice ring to it.... :D

[AskaniSon[RS]]

way i look at it is, he had a theory about you guys being too stubborn to look past the last incident (which admittedly(sp?) was trumped up by zoopal some) so he played under a different name (ive known him as skywind for the better part of like 2-3 years now, would any of you change your game name completely for any amount of time to play where you want and test a theory?).

He has been around the forums and server for a while, he has posted respectfully an without spam as far as i can remember, even in this thread he has remained civil and taken his criticism and advice maturely (thats a rarity in unban me threads).

To all the people saying banned is banned, its not, or we wouldnt have an unban me please section, pot wouldnt be around, and rev, hal, johnny, pink, true ass, and i wouldnt be allowed to play halo on our own servers, bans are a tool to slap some sense into regulars or chase off the occasional ethug, so get used to it, and skywind, regardless of name, is a regular...

Yall have played with him a lot and not overall screamed hacks, just more like grumbled about different play styles. So if he has had an attitude adjustment by rev and lj, cus the rest of you were attacking him, not being factual, then why not let him play? and if you really cant do anything but watch him like a hawk and wait for him to do anything suspect so you can ban him again, then maybe you dont need admin and you need to find a frickin hobby, because you obviously arent playing to have fun

[DA BEARS[RS]]

You obviously haven't played source with this guy, it's just flat out not fun. And as far as "proving a theory", I believe he got his answer with being banned a second time. And I never said I was going to watch him like a hawk, I was just being realistic. I really couldn't care less about him, I am trying to enforce rules I thought we had.

He knowingly decieved us, I thought we where against that? And it's easy for somebody to come in here and act mature with there tail between there legs, when they want unbbanned...again.

By all means, game on............

[glenquagmire]

I know what you're saying Askani, and I agree with the "get a life" attitude. I rarely think anyone is hacking anymore, I usually just chalk it up to them being better than me or having a better computer set up. After CAL, I never think anything is impossible, seeing some of the shit people do there. My point was, he was banned as skywind for whatever reason (I don't care to rehash) and now he's been banned as a different player and none of the people involved knew he was skywind. Something MUST be off about the way this guy plays in the opinion of these clan members, so why fuel the drama, just let him know that its time to find another server.

As far as his social experiment, it has obviously failed. His idea was that we were prejudiced against the name Skywind, so he got another id and name and got himself dropped again. So as previously stated, there is something about his style of play (I'm not gonna say hax because I don't think he does) that pisses people off.

Cut. Print. Done.

[DA BEARS[RS]]

That is exactly what I was trying to say.

[Orcone^]

Feel free to point out what is wrong with my style of play. I'm knifing a lot more often and never using a gun other than my level, basically reducing what Rev posted from before.

[Tembel[RS]]

Feel free to point out what is wrong with my style of play. I'm knifing a lot more often and never using a gun other than my level, basically reducing what Rev posted from before.

Honestly, and this will piss a lot of people off but I don't care. You are just toooo good for the server. Thats why I kind of stopped playing source myself, as did Cool and many others.

[DA BEARS[RS]]

;25689']Honestly, and this will piss a lot of people off but I don't care. You are just toooo good for the server. Thats why I kind of stopped playing source myself, as did Cool and many others.

I don't think that will piss anybody off, I agree.

[TailofZabu[RS]]

;25689']Honestly, and this will piss a lot of people off but I don't care. You are just toooo good for the server. Thats why I kind of stopped playing source myself, as did Cool and many others.
We don't like you in the server anyway... After killing Our Lord and all... can you blame us?

[AskaniSon[RS]]

hmmm so after all the times you guys have been banned from servers you enjoy cus they thought you were hacking, and after all the times weve said its for fun, you now admittedly want to be able to ban people because theyre too good? we banning pot again? what about rev? hes too good at halo, perhaps we should permaban him from the server he paid for, rev was one of the few people in this thread to post CONSTRUCTIVELY on what didnt gel, orc has taken the advice and used it. His experiment did work, he got banned for reasons other than hacking, and had about convinced yall to unban him, if yall seriously want to ban people cus theyre too good, even when theyre playing by your rules, then you either need to clean the sand out of your vaginas or go join oz, there used to be a time when we relished the competition, the fact that someone who wasnt in the clan was beating us was motivation to play better, or try to recruit the guy, not cry and take our ball and go home

[AskaniSon[RS]]

and yea bears, i have played source with him, both as sky and as orc, hes freaking good, but i dont bitch, and i dont stop playing source cus its no fun cus hes there, i stop cus its no fun when i dont progress, and that still would be the case if you took out 80% of the source population, so im not gonna bitch

as for the lying part? yea its in the rules, but thats about lying on an app mainly, and I personally think its funny that several of yall got caught with your pants down (insert giggity from glen, pic from flounder, and comment from tail)

[DA BEARS[RS]]

I don't think anybody said anything about banning him because he's good, it was stated that people think maybe he should play elsewhere. I am simply saying this...

Skywind-banned
Orcone-banned

Is there a 3 strike rule? Can anybody think of another person that was banned twice and allowed to return?

I wasn't there when it happened, I don't really give a flying fuck if he's banned or given full membership, I'm just saying he disrespected us by returning under a different name, and look what happened. Maybe it's a good thing he came back, we haven't had any controversey since the last time he was around....

I'll go back to my corner now....

[SSLJ]

I enjoy challenging players in GunGame. I keep playing even though most of you guys beat me up pretty regularly. I love the challenge, when people play how our GG server is ment to be played. When people like SKywind come in and bait people, or play the game "wrong" for our server and regulars, I get pissy (I don't know how many times I yell at people for team attackign and the other stupid crap they do). When a dude gets banned under two different accounts, something is wrong with the dude.

I should have lifted the ban, we will see how long that lasts. Play by our rules or find a new server.

For the record, when Pot shuts the hell up, I love playing against him because he is freaking good and not afraid to knife or sneak around and get an extra level. When skywind gets his level, he goes in to uberdefensive mode and grabs a strong, accurate gun to pick off the remaining players. In simpler terms, Pot == Good and by the rules. Skywind == Good and total douche.

[JohnnyLaw[RS]]

Could anyone explain to me why people who are generally made to feel unwelcome in our server (either for the right or wrong reasons) are so damned obsessed with our server? Is ours the only Gun Game server in the northern hemisphere or something? I don't get it.

Take this "situation" as an example. This guy gets a clear message, numerous times to leave and not come back. Yet he practically bends over backwards to get back in our server. From my perspective that is an individual who has an insationable desire to create and perpetuate conflict. Which leads me to wonder what other "methods" the individual would condescend too in an effort to satisfy this "need" of theirs. I truly find individuals displaying this type of behavior both troublesome and of questionable character.

[Orcone^]

Yes, I am pretty obsessed with your reverse GG server. I have reasons for it. It has good low ping for me, good register, and its pretty active. Its also great for knifing, many other servers you always get knifed from 10 feet away and when you back up, you always somehow get knifed; on your server it doesnt happen. I like your knife fight mod as well. The server also 100 tick, although I'm not exactly sure what that means but I know its a good thing.

[Orcone^]

;25694']and yea bears, i have played source with him, both as sky and as orc)

Eh, I dont recall or remember playing with you on the GG server, what was your name?

[JohnnyLaw[RS]]

Eh, I dont recall or remember playing with you on the GG server, what was your name?

"[RS]YourDaddy"

[Orcone^]

;25701']"[RS]YourDaddy"

I believe the correct term would be "[RS]YourMom" :P

[AskaniSon[RS]]

If i were the mom i woulda smothered you a long time ago, I play under several diff names

[Orcone^]

;25703']If i were the mom i woulda smothered you a long time ago

:'(

[FearlessG1]

I'm with askani on this one. skyorc seems to have adjusted his play from baiter and has taken rev's advise. He is now aware of our concerns, if he can still kill people, more power to him. tread lightly, don't bait.

[Spencer]

read first couple of pages. dont want to read the rest so sorry if i repeat somthing

i personally dont like playing with him because i do get owned. but just because someone is good doens't mean they shouldn't be able to play on the server, thats just not accepting defeat right there. he doesn't hack either. also, we all play different have have different styles of playing, so we cant just go through and be like, hey i dont like how you play..ban...but at the same time if there style is breaking the rules then yes the ban can come into issue, but his never was against any rules. i think this ban thing is getting taken out of hand and its just a reaction to people getting owned to much. if you dont want to play with him, go to one of our other servers untill he leaves, he has just as much right to play on a PUB server as we do..right?

[JohnnyLaw[RS]]

;25727'] if you dont want to play with him, go to one of our other servers untill he leaves, he has just as much right to play on a PUB server as we do..right?

I don't really care what you said up to that point. Anyone using Riot Squad resources is doing so at the pleasure of Riot Squad. There are no "rights" in regards to non-members. That is where the problem often lies. People think they have some kind of "right" to OUR servers because they are accesible to the public. THIS IS OUR CLAN AND OUR SERVERS. Playing in our servers is a privilege to the general public ( in other words non-RS members).

[Rain]

let this topic go for the love,

[Orcone^]

Spencer, yeah I'm aware that you have not read farther, but I'm 99% sure im playing by your rules now by taking Rev's advice

[BMAsRevenge[RS]]

;25729']I don't really care what you said up to that point. Anyone using Riot Squad resources is doing so at the pleasure of Riot Squad. There are no "rights" in regards to non-members. That is where the problem often lies. People think they have some kind of "right" to OUR servers because they are accesible to the public. THIS IS OUR CLAN AND OUR SERVERS. Playing in our servers is a privilege to the general public ( in other words non-RS members).

I wanted to quote Johnny so often people forget this.
All RS servers are owned, operated and paid for by RS members. They are open to the public but that does NOT mean the public is entitled to use them. It means we allow the public to use them.

[toastmonster[RS]]

I just don't like the idea of coming back after being banned and "lieing" to us about who you are.

[Chemo[RS]]

I vote to ban and close this thread. No more need to continue any, "drama". It's pointless. So, to end the chance of seeing how long the BS can continue,..let's just end it now.



PS: All your upload and download speeds SUCK, compaired to mine!

[AskaniSon[RS]]

yea! ban him!

on what grounds?

jack kirby once penciled "with great power comes great responsibility" Johnny is proof of that, when he felt that he was in danger of abusing his power he surrendered it. But he is 100% right, the servers are ours, we OPEN them to the public and are free to CLOSE them to anyone we want, on any grounds we want...

We could permaban every 19th person to join, we could ban anyone with squigglies in their name, or anyones name who starts with an O, theres billions of possible criteria we could use to exclude people from playing on our servers. Or.... we could be the better person, and rise above petty abuse of admin, let people play no matter how good or bad they are, and save the admin for rule violations (porn sprays, vulgarity, disrespecting clan/admins, etc) and not for different playstyles. I was on our server the other night and yall kept bitching about me in vent, talking about me hanging back, camping, baiting... when youre on scout/awp/styer what are you supposed to do? run into tight quarters and fire from the hip? youre lucky no one banned me for camping.

Lets get back to banning skywind. Pot hacked, admitted it, served his time,a nd is back. skywind was banned for drama the first time, yall admit he doesnt hack, so in his mind he felt we werent justified in the ban, he came back to play more where he likes, he played a good long time before you made a stink again saying he hacked but not really, then admitting to unban him this time, you guys conveyed how you would rather see him play in a sportsman like manner (LOL CUS WERE TALKING ABOUT TERRORISTS!!!) and he has adapted to your requests, can you tell me what part of him doesnt fit our server? pretty sure some of you went through those steps to get in the clan.

This had better be the last i hear of any damn jerkynuts banning people cus theyre too good for the server

[Rain]

This had better be the last i hear of any damn jerkynuts banning people cus theyre too good for the server

Thank you! Yes its annoying but we just need to get better and stop bitching

[glenquagmire]

I like pie.

[DA BEARS[RS]]

;25747']I was on our server the other night and yall kept bitching about me in vent, talking about me hanging back, camping, baiting...

LOL, I thought that was you!

[CREEPING DEATH]

ZOMG.....love the sig Bears

[Chemo[RS]]

NO!

[CREEPING DEATH]

YES!, wait, what were you saying no about?

[Pot]

;25697']For the record, when Pot shuts the hell up, I love playing against him because he is freaking good and not afraid to knife or sneak around and get an extra level.


:hug For that comment i will only talk in game/vent when being talked to. or if i have a Question.

[JohnnyLaw[RS]]

:hug For that comment i will only talk in game/vent when being talked to. or if i have a Question.

stfu Pot.