View Full Version : Regulars and Admins Abusive
Blank
11-30-2007, 12:04 AM
I recently joined your server under the name " ". It's just blank. It's a neat little trick I found, I basically appear without a name in the game. So that's who I am.
Anyway, earlier today I joined your server and immediately two self-proclaimed "regulars" ( sr rain and teh_leet_something ) started cussing at me because my name "was annoying". You know, things like "F*** off" and "GTFO and get a name, faggot", etc. All I did was enter the game! I briefly changed my name to SCREW YOU FAGGOTS because, to be honest, I was pissed at these two "regulars" for cussing me out for no reason (I soon changed back to the old name and apologized). If I had joined with the offensive name in the first place I would have drawn less heat then what I got for having no name. I don't get what the big deal is. Is there another guy with the name " " that's been hacking and flaming on your server? If so, I apologize, that guy isn't me. I just joined to have some fun at nobody's expense- I had no intention to hack, flame, or otherwise cause trouble.
[RS]Johnny joined a bit later, and all was well for a couple of rounds. Then Johnny beat some other guy in a knife fight. I hit y and typed "nice". Two seconds later, I get kicked without explanation. I rejoin and enter spec (maybe i was playing wrong?), and when he dies I ask him about why I was kicked and the following conversation happened:
Me: why was i kicked?
Johnny: because i kicked you.
Johnny: that's what happens when you get kicked.
Me: what were the reasons for kicking me? i did nothing wrong. in fact, budday and rain were flaming me for no reason earlier
STEAM: You have been kicked by admin.
There were no other [RS] members on when I was kicked, so I'm sure it was Johnny, unless you have admins that aren't in [RS] or don't wear the tag.
Now, direct quotes from the clan rules that I found in the forum:
"[RS] is a mature clan..."
"[RS] does not tolerate offensive language or racial slurs or demeaning language. Can you trash talk to your best friend and clan mate? SURE, I love to!! However we ask you to use common sense in what you say and who you say it around. ..."
And one from the section marked Protocols:
[B]HARRASSMENT
As stated before, this is a clan for mature gamers, and if you feel the need to persecute, harass, or bombard someone, then you are within spitting distance of being clanless. There is no need to harass someone on any of our media, no person should feel persecuted, or that they need to AVOID the forums, or vent, or a particular server just because someone is on there and that person harasses them. ALL members should feel free to visit all clan locations without hesitation. Again this kind of behavior is simply unwarranted, and will be punished. ..."
I very strongly feel that neither the clan members nor the regulars on the GunGame Reverse!!! [RS] server give these rules and protocols any merit or consideration whatsoever. They have left me sitting here confused, frustrated, and angry. Again, all I wanted to do was play CS:S with some decent, fun-loving people. I'm not nieve- I understand that there are going to be some idiots running around and causing trouble. But in about 10-20 minutes on your server, I met with two regulars AND an admin who I could classify as said idiots. If my having no name bothers you guys so much, then I'd be happy to change it, but I feel the behavior displayed was totally inappropriate and unnecessary.
Hopefully this was an isolated incident, and everyone was in a bad mood or whatever, or perhaps you guys have a problem with a guy who also uses a blank name while hacking, flaming, TKing, etc. and I'm just an innocent victim who just so happened to have the wrong name in the wrong place at the wrong time. Again, if that's the case then I apologize for wasting your time and causing an uproar. Thanks for your time- I'll try and not make such a huge wall of text in the future. :p
Vashx
11-30-2007, 12:13 AM
Wasn't there atm, but was in vent. Was hearin wierd stuff went into server and all seemed well, so I left and I guess everything happened after that. Not sure exactly what went down, but I guess johnny will have to be the one to reply :O
Hellsing
11-30-2007, 02:29 AM
oh, i wanna read that
TailofZabu[RS]
11-30-2007, 02:32 AM
Hey! Who gave Johnny his admin back??? I say ban 'im!
xoxoxox Johnny!
Tembel[RS]
11-30-2007, 03:21 AM
I appreciate your well written and well mannered post to these forums. This will be handled accordingly after the other side has been given a chance to explain what was going on. Thank you for your post and we will get back to you as soon as we figure out everything that was going on.
Blank
11-30-2007, 03:43 AM
Thanks, Tembel. I'd like to know what was going on myself :P
IcePick[RS]
11-30-2007, 09:29 AM
Johnny: because i kicked you.
Johnny: that's what happens when you get kicked.
$$$!
Chemo[RS]
11-30-2007, 10:02 AM
Why must things like this continue,...why,..why can't we all,..get along? just get along.
Now,..Blank,..I will give you the benifet of a dought, that you are being honest and forthcoming, by posting what you said. I appeciate the way you wrote it and did not get volgure and show any kind of disrespect. Kudos for that. And as for what happened,..maybe it was a mistake,..maybe something happened,..maybe you actually, did something. alot of maybe's. I am sure this will taken with high regards and swift action will be taken.
But, you were not banned. And you may be more than welcome, to come back to our server at anytime and have some fun.
(sometimes, my medication gets the better of me, and i tend to fib,..just a little bit. i apologize.and i will, wheel myself back into a corner and sleep this off)
:D !!
glenquagmire
11-30-2007, 04:31 PM
Who the hell is this Icepick person :P
TailofZabu[RS]
11-30-2007, 06:14 PM
;20280']Who the hell is this Icepick person :PBAN HIM!
glenquagmire
11-30-2007, 06:59 PM
BAN THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!
Hellsing
11-30-2007, 07:10 PM
i heard blank was being soo much of an asshole that people left the server!
Chewy Gumball[RS]
11-30-2007, 08:49 PM
seriousness guys, come on.
Blank
11-30-2007, 09:01 PM
;20274']
But, you were not banned. And you may be more than welcome, to come back to our server at anytime and have some fun.
I don't think I'll be returning to your server until all this is sorted out, if at all. But I'm here to hear the other side of the issue, and hopefully we can sort things out and make amends.
Hellsing
11-30-2007, 09:23 PM
well i heard from rain and bink that you were being an asshat
TailofZabu[RS]
11-30-2007, 09:25 PM
well i heard from rain and bink that you were being an asshatme too...
haha indeed he was, and I persoanlly never curssed at him one time. I ask that he please put a tag one so we would know who he was! then he put up the name faggots or whatever it was. So thats my side of the story and vash heard me talking to him in vent so I have my proof I dont need to explain myself anymore!!!
JohnnyLaw[RS]
11-30-2007, 11:43 PM
Wow, I'm almost impressed. You managed to spend what I would approximate to be around 130 times more time making that initial post than it would take to accomodate the polite request that was made of you in the server. I was tempted to demand that you post everything that was said during in-game chat before I respond, but I realized that your failure to pay attention to detail, some sort of learning dissability, as well as your apparent hearing impairment would prevent you from posting ALL that was said. For an example you convienantly left out the numerous times you were spoken to as well as messaged, politely, to use some kind of identification while you were in our server. Naturally, you didn't respond. I understand now that it was no fault of your own. Your genetic disposition towards sub-normal mental capacity was preventing you from understanding what was going on.
May I also make an observation concerning your initial post. I commend you on your recent comprehension of the english language. You have come a long way in the past 24 hours. However, you apparently seem to not yet grasp the definition of the word "member".
and I quote, your quote;
"...........ALL members should feel free to visit all clan locations without hesitation. Again this kind of behavior is simply unwarranted, and will be punished. ..."
Your not a member, unless using slang, in which you are. Some other words that may be used are; Tool, Dick, Prick, etc......
You know what happened, you know why it happened. You knew how to keep it from happening. You are part of the problem, not the solution.
Blank
12-01-2007, 12:12 AM
If you were talking to me on mic, I couldn't hear you because I have mic recieve turned off because it's too much work to mute every individual retard that spams on the mic. I came into your server and before one round even finished, Rain and Budday had both cussed me out via keyboard. If you had typed me a request to change my name politely, I would have gladly put my name back to what it was before I learned the no name trick. However, you failed to think that maybe I wasn't ignoring you, I just couldn't hear you because I entered the server with mic turned off. From my point of view, there was no politeness involved- just flaming, and later, being kicked without explanation. If you perhaps had given a reason when I returned and asked you why I had been kicked instead of being sarcastic, perhaps we could have figured out that I couldn't hear you and yes I will gladly change my name, sorry for the misunderstanding.
I have been nothing but respectful in my posts and in-game, bar the one incident where I changed my name to SCREW YOU FAGGOTS and said up yours before changing back to blank and ignoring rain/budday and again, I apologize. I came here hoping that you would show me the same respect that I'm trying to show you. Flaming me won't help, Johnny, and I don't want this to turn into a petty third grade shouting match.
Ninjakitty
12-01-2007, 12:29 AM
;20294']
"...........ALL members should feel free to visit all clan locations without hesitation. Again this kind of behavior is simply unwarranted, and will be punished. ..."
Your not a member, unless using slang, in which you are. Some other words that may be used are; Tool, Dick, Prick, etc......
that sounds like tool, dick, and prick are all slang for members, lol. you should be nicer to your clanmates, tsk tsk.
Randy Lahey[RS]
12-01-2007, 12:37 AM
Did someone say something about third graders??
DA BEARS[RS]
12-01-2007, 02:09 AM
that sounds like tool, dick, and prick are all slang for members, lol. you should be nicer to your clanmates, tsk tsk.
Blank isn't a clanmate.
JohnnyLaw[RS]
12-01-2007, 03:21 AM
I have been nothing but respectful in my posts and in-game, bar the one incident where I changed my name to SCREW YOU FAGGOTS and said up yours...
You understand that is the equivalant to saying your a vegetarian except at dinner time when you like to eat steak right?
I came here hoping that you would show me the same respect that I'm trying to show you. .
You, like every other that decides to post these kinds of threads, are only interested in showing "respect" and being civil once your in some type of public forum where all will read your carefully chosen words. To be quite honest, there is no "big fancy rule" or such against not having a name when you join a server. But that type of behavior draws quick attention and is viewed as suspect. If your so new to the game that you don't know why, I suggest you study up on it. However, I don't believe you to be so new to the game that you wouldn't understand why you were on the receiving end of such hostility when joining our server with a blank name field. So drop the guise of being some kind of honorable and mature person who has been greatly wronged for no reason. your indignance is petty, and fake.
"Flaming me won't help, Johnny, and I don't want this to turn into a petty third grade shouting match."
Ya know, when you break out the word "Faggots" and "tards" right from the get-go, you might want to consider taking some of your own advice.
JohnnyLaw[RS]
12-01-2007, 03:37 AM
that sounds like tool, dick, and prick are all slang for members, lol. you should be nicer to your clanmates, tsk tsk.
1. Read the post again.
2. Think about it.
3. Think some more.
4. Consider thinking before you post your response.
5. Read the post again.
6. Post your response.
Ah Johnny I commend you for keeping us safe from retards. I try, but alas I do not have the ban powers (and haven't felt it was my place to give them to myself).
Though I do enjoy a good romp with kicking.
Now why the hell can't retards be on when I am? This is starting to piss me off.
Chemo[RS]
12-01-2007, 08:02 AM
If you were talking to me on mic, I couldn't hear you because I have mic recieve turned off because it's too much work to mute every individual retard that spams on the mic.
it's kinda funny to mention that now, instead of the thread you made yesterday. what's that smell again,..oh yeah,..smells like bullshit, to me. anyway, blank,..i hope you take heed of johnnny's thread for we all respect his judgement. and, it seems that he brought the law down upon you. so, deal with it. like Motley Crue once sang,.."don't go away mad, just go away"!!
i vote for forum admin to delete all posts and threads from "blank". or better, forum ban!! :D
Hellsing
12-01-2007, 07:24 PM
Oh my god, I do love reading Johnny's posts...It's the way he's able to take people down a couple pegs and showing them how much on an asshat they really are...
Hellsing
12-01-2007, 07:25 PM
;20299']Did someone say something about third graders??
LOL!
CREEPING DEATH
12-01-2007, 08:41 PM
;20305']Ah Johnny I commend you for keeping us safe from retards. I try, but alas I do not have the ban powers (and haven't felt it was my place to give them to myself).
Though I do enjoy a good romp with kicking.
Now why the hell can't retards be on when I am? This is starting to piss me off.
imma come in there and make u ban me!!!!!!!!!!!!! just wait'll u see my name screepingdeath screepingdeath screepingdeath screepingdeath screepingdeath screepingdeath s30secondstodeath screepingdeath screepingdeath screepingdeath
Hal Storm [RS]
12-01-2007, 09:05 PM
Blank, what i'm seeing is that thier was an issue between you and some members of this clan and you got kicked for it, and your upset. some times you just need to suck it up and move on. its not like you were banned or something. let it go.
when your are in someones server, treat people like you want to be treated and things will go better.
thanks and have a nice day.
Ninjakitty
12-02-2007, 12:36 AM
wow, hes just trying to apologize and get along, why you all gotta be so mean? he said sorry for changin his name and yelling, which is way more mature then what all you have been. he's trying to apologize even though from what ive seen here on the forum, you guys are the ones being jerks but he still is sorry for being about 1/10th as bad as you've been, unless he did somethin really bad in game besides reacting to your hate. i'd yell back if you yelled at me for no reason too! we're all human. besides, is havin no name really so bad? i mean if he came on as "blablabla" or "im a phone" or "thebigfatcow" or any other random name, you wouldnt know who that was either, so why is no name worse than some other random name? does it make it so you cant ban him? (dont think thats it cuz you can kick so why not ban) is it some supersecret CSS insult?
now i wasnt there in the game, but from what i saw in the forums he doesnt seem like hes the kind of guy to cause trouble, and it seems like hes a good person- even though he feels like hes the one whos been wronged, he took the time to come here and apologize. he gave you the benefit of the doubt. he wants to "make amends" and "get along", even after you guys keep yelling at him. yes, it easier to point fingers and blame the new guy, but taking it this far is just stupid. i think you all need to take a step back and look at how your treating this guy, and if he really deserves it. and if you can't or won't, then you definately need to reexamine the kind of person you are and how you live your life.
Chewy Gumball[RS]
12-02-2007, 01:19 AM
It does seem you guys are being a bit harsh, but I wasn't there so I can't say if it is justified or not.
DA BEARS[RS]
12-02-2007, 01:34 AM
and I persoanlly never curssed at him one time. I ask that he please put a tag one so we would know who he was! then he put up the name faggots or whatever it was. So thats my side of the story and vash heard me talking to him in vent so I have my proof I dont need to explain myself anymore!!!
I don't think anybody is being too harsh on the guy, and personally I'd take Johnny's and Rain's word on what happened over this guy. Besides, he's not banned, he can come back in and prove that he's decent if he wants.
Ninjakitty
12-02-2007, 03:08 AM
---IMPORTANT---
this is what i have to say in blank's defense. i know its long. it has to be long because im telling in detail my thoughts and observations and backing them with facts. it takes space to do that. what doesnt take up space is things like "your a tool, go fuck yourself" or "cry me a river, you pussy". you don't have to read it- its easy to say "its too long, wah wah" or "i already made up my mind, nobody can change it", etc. go ahead, i cant stop you. just know while you scroll past this post that you are actively choosing to be an ignorant and self-righteous asshat.
---IMPORTANT---
im all for harshness against the people who spam, cuss, and act like they're better then everybody, like the guy in the topic "Banned because im better". but blank's admitted that he did something wrong too and said sorry for it, and done so with respect, even though he thinks you guys were the ones being assholes. but johnny complains that he "conveniently leaves out certain details" but doesn't say what he thinks blank did, so blank can't defend himself. and then johnny yells at blank about the thing he ADMITTED he did wrong, after whining about "conveniently leaving out certain details". so either way johnny's making it so blank looks like the asshole, which isnt fair. look how blank's behaved here- hes been a perfect gentleman and lived up to what he did, EVEN THOUGH HE BELIEVES THAT IT IS YOU AND NOT HIM THAT IS IN THE WRONG. that should be more than enough to prove his character, despite what he did or didnt do in-game. but nobody knows what he supposedly did in-game: johnny doesn't offer examples, he just bitches and degrades the poor guy. for all anybody knows, the only thing blank is guilty of is leaving his mic sound off. not exactly grounds for everybody hating and berating him.
from what i see, blank has respectfully given a detailed account of what happened, lived up to the wrong that he did, and has given everybody a chance to give their side of the story. RS members and forum users, on the other hand, have insulted his intelligence, accused him of being the one causing trouble without any actual evidence or examples, used foul language against him, and have all judged against him based on nothing more than their imagination of what may or may not have happend in-game, totally ignoring how THEY THEMSELVES HAVE SEEN HIM ACT- here in the forums. and here he's been a polite and respectful person here, so i personally have no reason to believe he's done anything wrong in-game. however, johnny has made you all think he did something horrible by not providing examples of what he SUPPOSEDLY did wrong. why doesnt anybody come forth with evidence or examples of why this guy deserves to be flamed to a crisp? because there is NONE. johnny is setting it up so you all think he must have done something horrible, and leaves you to figure out what that is. and you eat it up, you take his side because he just happens to have that little [RS] by his name. but you should decide for yourselvs how good of a person he is by judging him based on how YOU have seen him act, not how somebody else tricks you into believing how he acts.
sure its easier to flame and hate, blissfully assuming that your in the right. but that is ignorant and unfair, which is how you're acting. please prove me wrong.
PS- regarding rain's statement, "and I persoanlly never curssed at him one time... ...vash heard me talking to him in vent so I have my proof":
blank stated that he had his mic volume off, so he couldn't hear you talking. therefore blank's perception of what happened does not involve anything you said on mic, only what you typed at him. keep that in mind.
P*I*N*K[RS]
12-02-2007, 03:55 AM
why dont you just mind your own buisness?????
Hell_Gunner
12-02-2007, 03:56 AM
bah ok this right here is rediculous.... blank ur welcome back to the server anytime u like ok? there was no reason for u to come here and post. None the less i understan u felt u were wronged and frankly..i agree with ya but this is something that can be forgoten. just come back and have fun k?...and please stop bashin this guy hes just tryn to make a point in all seriousness.. if u guys agree then this thread should jsut be closed k?......btw note: this kinda thing only comes up when we play cs:s
BMAsRevenge[RS]
12-02-2007, 05:33 AM
And you wonder why I quit playing CSS.:)
Now post is long also but members here already know I am quite capable of very long misinterpreted post. :D
Anyway this is how I read this. I have been following but staying out. I really don't want to be involved with any of the stupid CSS arguments anymore but this one just keeps going.
Blank came and very diplomatically posted a thread asking about possible admin abuse and being kicked. Yes it was polite only he left out the damaging details.
Then the following responded:
Vash - Nothing negative and polite
Hellsing "None Member" - Nothing negative.
Tail - Joking towards johnny nothing negative towards blank
Tembel - Very diplomatic and polite nothing negative
Blank - replies back
IcePick - Laughs at Johnny's actions not Blank
Chemo - Friendly and politly says just let it go and come back and have fun no biggy.
Glen - Post joking about Icepick and his rare appearance.
Tail - responds to Glen joke about Icepick
Now So far I haven't seen a single negative comment. So help me here if I am wrong.
Hellsing "None Member" - Post "well i heard from rain and bink that you were being an asshat" Now the use of the word a**hat is inappropriate. He a none member was only relaying what he had heard on ventrilo.
Tail - confirms that he heard the basically the same thing
Rain "None member" - Post that he had asked that he put up a name and that is when he put up "faggots" as a name.
Now for the serious part:
Johnny - replies confronting him on the issue in his way blunt and if you wish harsh.
Blank - responds admitting to things he failed to admit to when he started this thread about admin abuse "changed my name to SCREW YOU FAGGOTS and said up yours". He also is just as guilty of harshness in that he accusses johnny of being third gradeish.
Ninja kitty - Chimes in to address a comment Johnny made.
Randy - Jokes about the third graders comment . If you are unaware its an inside joke. It had no bearing or meaning in the thread itself other than a joke.
Bears - mentions that blank is not a clan member
Johnny - Responds again this time first he basically gives the exact reasons for being kicked by quoting what blank admitted he said. Then goes on to demostrate to blank exactly why he recieved the attitude using Blanks own words as quotes. He did not call him any names.
SSLJ - responds sarcastic but jokingly to johnny.
Chemo - responds that johnny has explained why you got kicked that was the punishment for the attitude just except it.
Hellsing "none Member" - responds laughing at how johnny demostrated blanks faults.
Creep - responds jokingly to SSLJ
Hal - responds politly and politically stating to blank suck it up your not banned and a kick was warranted at that time.
Now other than your last two post Kitty only Chewy and Bears responded and niether were negative.
You took it apon your self to stand up for blank against everyone here believing that they are all out to get him when in reality none of this is in the post. In fact he is told several times by members to just let it go and come back to the server he isn't banned.
So who is the mature ones here? Blank was asked to add a name. He claims he couldn't hear them because his in game voice is off but yet he changed his name to "Faggots" Then says "Up Yours". He gets kicked NOT BANNED" Then complains about abuse.
Personaly I seldom use my admin and find myself very tolorate of players comments on the server but had he told me "Up Yours" I would have banned him instantly.
He was only kicked as punishment. He has been told he was welcome back on the server many times in this thread. He has been refussing that invitation as though he is looking for a fight. The only member in this entire thread that really states anything that could be considered negative attitude towards Blank is Johnny. The part that could be considered negative is the actual confrontation of what happened. I think you need to read what is really posted.
Why do so often people interpret what is written for what is not there?
Vashx
12-02-2007, 07:43 AM
Thx rev that was a very useful and mature way of explaining it all (dusnt always work like that for me my brain is partly broken)
Now to explain what I thought, cuz I was in vent and did join the game just to see if anything was wrong then left. Seems to me that nothing really was said too harshly (come on we're all either adults are later teens) and I think we can all get over it. Now Johnny has the right as admin and long time member of the clan to kick whoever he pleases especially if they are bothering people in the server in some way. Personally I don't think the big deal was that there was a blank name, but the fact that you wouldn't listen to something that the admin asked you to do. Asking to add a name isn't very difficult to do by anyones means and Johnny seemed to relize this and kick as a warning (you can just immediately rejoin and put a name on.) This may be considered admin abuse in someone coming to our server as a guest, but sometimes you gotta do what your asked to make everyone happy...
just my thoughts thinkin this could just kinda die out being as it isn't too big of a deal. *blank* is welcome whenever he wants just put a name on :)\
-Vash :O
Randy Lahey[RS]
12-02-2007, 01:45 PM
---IMPORTANT---
this is what i have to say in blank's defense. i know its long. it has to be long because im telling in detail my thoughts and observations and backing them with facts. it takes space to do that. what doesnt take up space is things like "your a tool, go fuck yourself" or "cry me a river, you pussy". you don't have to read it- its easy to say "its too long, wah wah" or "i already made up my mind, nobody can change it", etc. go ahead, i cant stop you. just know while you scroll past this post that you are actively choosing to be an ignorant and self-righteous asshat.
---IMPORTANT---
im all for harshness against the people who spam, cuss, and act like they're better then everybody, like the guy in the topic "Banned because im better". but blank's admitted that he did something wrong too and said sorry for it, and done so with respect, even though he thinks you guys were the ones being assholes. but johnny complains that he "conveniently leaves out certain details" but doesn't say what he thinks blank did, so blank can't defend himself. and then johnny yells at blank about the thing he ADMITTED he did wrong, after whining about "conveniently leaving out certain details". so either way johnny's making it so blank looks like the asshole, which isnt fair. look how blank's behaved here- hes been a perfect gentleman and lived up to what he did, EVEN THOUGH HE BELIEVES THAT IT IS YOU AND NOT HIM THAT IS IN THE WRONG. that should be more than enough to prove his character, despite what he did or didnt do in-game. but nobody knows what he supposedly did in-game: johnny doesn't offer examples, he just bitches and degrades the poor guy. for all anybody knows, the only thing blank is guilty of is leaving his mic sound off. not exactly grounds for everybody hating and berating him.
from what i see, blank has respectfully given a detailed account of what happened, lived up to the wrong that he did, and has given everybody a chance to give their side of the story. RS members and forum users, on the other hand, have insulted his intelligence, accused him of being the one causing trouble without any actual evidence or examples, used foul language against him, and have all judged against him based on nothing more than their imagination of what may or may not have happend in-game, totally ignoring how THEY THEMSELVES HAVE SEEN HIM ACT- here in the forums. and here he's been a polite and respectful person here, so i personally have no reason to believe he's done anything wrong in-game. however, johnny has made you all think he did something horrible by not providing examples of what he SUPPOSEDLY did wrong. why doesnt anybody come forth with evidence or examples of why this guy deserves to be flamed to a crisp? because there is NONE. johnny is setting it up so you all think he must have done something horrible, and leaves you to figure out what that is. and you eat it up, you take his side because he just happens to have that little [RS] by his name. but you should decide for yourselvs how good of a person he is by judging him based on how YOU have seen him act, not how somebody else tricks you into believing how he acts.
sure its easier to flame and hate, blissfully assuming that your in the right. but that is ignorant and unfair, which is how you're acting. please prove me wrong.
PS- regarding rain's statement, "and I persoanlly never curssed at him one time... ...vash heard me talking to him in vent so I have my proof":
blank stated that he had his mic volume off, so he couldn't hear you talking. therefore blank's perception of what happened does not involve anything you said on mic, only what you typed at him. keep that in mind.
I just wanted to quote this for a laugh. I only read long enough to figure I'm an ignorant self righteous asshat. Bwahahahah. I love this. Finally, for once I don't care!!!
P.S. Ninjakitty?? Is that really you Tracy?? Only my girlfriend would nag for that long! Just kidding, nice post.
Ninjakitty
12-02-2007, 01:54 PM
i just wanna know how to make MY name just blank space and screw around on my own server. like kill myself, and then see if it shows just the scuicide skull, thatd be so funny =^.^=
yea im suckin up to random stranger guy. but he knows... THE SECRET =O.O=
Edit- i meant to say i was blowin off steam cuz im so stressed from finals week comin up and two papers due monday wtfbbq. its totally not an obvious attempt to manipulate him into telling me cool things, whered you ever get THAT idea??? =<.<= =>.>= =<.<=
Randy Lahey[RS]
12-02-2007, 03:34 PM
yea im suckin up to random stranger guy. but he knows... THE SECRET =O.O=
That you have a huge cock??
JohnnyLaw[RS]
12-02-2007, 04:33 PM
wow, hes just trying to apologize and get along, why you all gotta be so mean? he said sorry for changin his name and yelling, which is way more mature then what all you have been. he's trying to apologize even though from what ive seen here on the forum, you guys are the ones being jerks but he still is sorry for being about 1/10th as bad as you've been, unless he did somethin really bad in game besides reacting to your hate. i'd yell back if you yelled at me for no reason too! we're all human. besides, is havin no name really so bad? i mean if he came on as "blablabla" or "im a phone" or "thebigfatcow" or any other random name, you wouldnt know who that was either, so why is no name worse than some other random name? does it make it so you cant ban him? (dont think thats it cuz you can kick so why not ban) is it some supersecret CSS insult?
now i wasnt there in the game, but from what i saw in the forums he doesnt seem like hes the kind of guy to cause trouble, and it seems like hes a good person- even though he feels like hes the one whos been wronged, he took the time to come here and apologize. he gave you the benefit of the doubt. he wants to "make amends" and "get along", even after you guys keep yelling at him. yes, it easier to point fingers and blame the new guy, but taking it this far is just stupid. i think you all need to take a step back and look at how your treating this guy, and if he really deserves it. and if you can't or won't, then you definately need to reexamine the kind of person you are and how you live your life.
I've noticed an interesting trend with you Ninjakitty. You have an amazing knack, desire, obsession, whatever, to seek out those that would dissagree with this clan and take their side. Especially in cases where you were not privy to the conflict in any way, shape, or form. You have shared your "cough" "cough" wisdom with us and advised us to all go meditate on these "faults", so to speak, that you have assigned onto us. I wonder if you realize how incredibalyl arogant you are being by forming and voicing these opinions when you were not witness, to ANYTHING, that happened.
Additionally, what you don't realize, is that this type of individual and his actions in the server and later on our forums is something of a regular occurance. Ignorant, antagonistic, abusive, individuals with nothing but malevolant intent join the server regularly. They perform some sort of dissruptive act and then complain when there are reprocussions. My personal theory behind these acts is that these are individuals who have some sort of huge void in their lives and are only able to interact with others through anonymous conflict due to some huge emotional and probably mental defficiency. Of course they present their side of the story on the fourms in an articulate and organized manner. They have had time to cool down, organize their thoughts, and come up with the most self flattering way of presenting the argument.
I don't argue with these people, attempt to validate any sort of factual list or timeline, nor do I defend my actions. I don't need to. They screwed up, they got kicked/banned. I was there, I saw it, I took action. Thats how it works.
Now I have my own words of wisdom for you Ninjakitty. You have the right to voice your opinions, as do I. My opinion is you should shut the fuck up and talk about what you know, now what you think happened based on what some moron posts in the forums. My understanding is that you applied to be a member of this clan. What in the wide world of fucking sports makes you think that you are anywhere close to being someone that we want to have around if it is nothing but a guarantee to be bombarded with whinning, nagging, and constant lack of loyalty towards the clan. You don't need a clan, you need a spineless husband.
Hellsing
12-02-2007, 10:35 PM
Oh lord, that was such a great post rev. Man you and Johnny. Beautiful.
Ninjakitty
12-02-2007, 10:47 PM
yea, i did get pretty carried away, but hes my friend and i know hes not a terrible person, but i can see where youd be upset at him. and for the record i've been all for the recent bannings, like CAPTAIN FALCON, Skywind, and Nemo2424. true i haven't been as vocal of my support as of my opposition, but johnny, you have a habit of saying everything that needs to be said (second post above included). and sorry rest of RS and everyone else, i know you guys arent assholes, your nice people, and thats why i want to join in the first place. im not sure about a trend of whining and nagging, blanks the only one that ive defended cuz hes a friend, and like you pointed out so... pointedly... i did go just a little bit waaaaay overboard. sorry everyone!
and about the spineless husband bit, that's EXACTLY what i need. know where i could find one?
;20348']That you have a huge cock??
oh, you'd like that, wouldn't you? =-.^=
Tembel[RS]
12-03-2007, 01:32 AM
;20338']And you wonder why I quit playing CSS.:)
Now post is long also but members here already know I am quite capable of very long misinterpreted post. :D
Anyway this is how I read this. I have been following but staying out. I really don't want to be involved with any of the stupid CSS arguments anymore but this one just keeps going.
Blank came and very diplomatically posted a thread asking about possible admin abuse and being kicked. Yes it was polite only he left out the damaging details.
Then the following responded:
Vash - Nothing negative and polite
Hellsing "None Member" - Nothing negative.
Tail - Joking towards johnny nothing negative towards blank
Tembel - Very diplomatic and polite nothing negative
Blank - replies back
IcePick - Laughs at Johnny's actions not Blank
Chemo - Friendly and politly says just let it go and come back and have fun no biggy.
Glen - Post joking about Icepick and his rare appearance.
Tail - responds to Glen joke about Icepick
Now So far I haven't seen a single negative comment. So help me here if I am wrong.
Hellsing "None Member" - Post "well i heard from rain and bink that you were being an asshat" Now the use of the word a**hat is inappropriate. He a none member was only relaying what he had heard on ventrilo.
Tail - confirms that he heard the basically the same thing
Rain "None member" - Post that he had asked that he put up a name and that is when he put up "faggots" as a name.
Now for the serious part:
Johnny - replies confronting him on the issue in his way blunt and if you wish harsh.
Blank - responds admitting to things he failed to admit to when he started this thread about admin abuse "changed my name to SCREW YOU FAGGOTS and said up yours". He also is just as guilty of harshness in that he accusses johnny of being third gradeish.
Ninja kitty - Chimes in to address a comment Johnny made.
Randy - Jokes about the third graders comment . If you are unaware its an inside joke. It had no bearing or meaning in the thread itself other than a joke.
Bears - mentions that blank is not a clan member
Johnny - Responds again this time first he basically gives the exact reasons for being kicked by quoting what blank admitted he said. Then goes on to demostrate to blank exactly why he recieved the attitude using Blanks own words as quotes. He did not call him any names.
SSLJ - responds sarcastic but jokingly to johnny.
Chemo - responds that johnny has explained why you got kicked that was the punishment for the attitude just except it.
Hellsing "none Member" - responds laughing at how johnny demostrated blanks faults.
Creep - responds jokingly to SSLJ
Hal - responds politly and politically stating to blank suck it up your not banned and a kick was warranted at that time.
Now other than your last two post Kitty only Chewy and Bears responded and niether were negative.
You took it apon your self to stand up for blank against everyone here believing that they are all out to get him when in reality none of this is in the post. In fact he is told several times by members to just let it go and come back to the server he isn't banned.
So who is the mature ones here? Blank was asked to add a name. He claims he couldn't hear them because his in game voice is off but yet he changed his name to "Faggots" Then says "Up Yours". He gets kicked NOT BANNED" Then complains about abuse.
Personaly I seldom use my admin and find myself very tolorate of players comments on the server but had he told me "Up Yours" I would have banned him instantly.
He was only kicked as punishment. He has been told he was welcome back on the server many times in this thread. He has been refussing that invitation as though he is looking for a fight. The only member in this entire thread that really states anything that could be considered negative attitude towards Blank is Johnny. The part that could be considered negative is the actual confrontation of what happened. I think you need to read what is really posted.
Why do so often people interpret what is written for what is not there?
QFFT!!! That is why I didn't say anything else after my first post :D
nO nAmeR
12-03-2007, 01:39 AM
WOW!!
I abused my admin last night and it made me go blind... perhaps I need better lube and aim...
Hellsing
12-03-2007, 02:58 AM
;20349']I've noticed an interesting trend with you Ninjakitty. You have an amazing knack, desire, obsession, whatever, to seek out those that would dissagree with this clan and take their side. Especially in cases where you were not privy to the conflict in any way, shape, or form. You have shared your "cough" "cough" wisdom with us and advised us to all go meditate on these "faults", so to speak, that you have assigned onto us. I wonder if you realize how incredibalyl arogant you are being by forming and voicing these opinions when you were not witness, to ANYTHING, that happened.
Additionally, what you don't realize, is that this type of individual and his actions in the server and later on our forums is something of a regular occurance. Ignorant, antagonistic, abusive, individuals with nothing but malevolant intent join the server regularly. They perform some sort of dissruptive act and then complain when there are reprocussions. My personal theory behind these acts is that these are individuals who have some sort of huge void in their lives and are only able to interact with others through anonymous conflict due to some huge emotional and probably mental defficiency. Of course they present their side of the story on the fourms in an articulate and organized manner. They have had time to cool down, organize their thoughts, and come up with the most self flattering way of presenting the argument.
I don't argue with these people, attempt to validate any sort of factual list or timeline, nor do I defend my actions. I don't need to. They screwed up, they got kicked/banned. I was there, I saw it, I took action. Thats how it works.
Now I have my own words of wisdom for you Ninjakitty. You have the right to voice your opinions, as do I. My opinion is you should shut the fuck up and talk about what you know, now what you think happened based on what some moron posts in the forums. My understanding is that you applied to be a member of this clan. What in the wide world of fucking sports makes you think that you are anywhere close to being someone that we want to have around if it is nothing but a guarantee to be bombarded with whinning, nagging, and constant lack of loyalty towards the clan. You don't need a clan, you need a spineless husband. Jeez, is that humbling or what? :nw
BigRat[RS]
12-03-2007, 03:58 AM
I like not being around much lately.
Ninjakitty, it's all cool. Let's just get back to playing. I mean, y'all can get back to playing... I've got vacation to enjoy (sort of) and COD4 to play when I get back.
rat
Vashx
12-03-2007, 01:22 PM
Hey rat nice to see ya around :)
and about the spineless husband bit, that's EXACTLY what i need. know where i could find one?
^^^^LJ^^^^^^ He could use a woman he's too busy vashterbating to pics of me : /
glenquagmire
12-03-2007, 02:04 PM
New rule: If your post takes up more than one screen, I do not read it at all. Time saver!
toastmonster[RS]
12-03-2007, 03:31 PM
good rule glen. why is this even an issue, i can't stand people who don't have any idea of personal responsibility and who seek to lay blame on others for their own problems. i quit reading his first post when he claimed to do nothing and rain just started going off on him. i'm sure he said something, but i've played with rain for a while and that doesn't sound like him.
regardless... everyone's said it, so i'd like to spam it again. you're not banned, keep playing, but guess what, follow the rules of the server and you'll be fine, act like a decent person, and you'll be fine.
besides, i can't imagine what you must've really done to piss johnny off, that's a big feat as johnny isn't one to kick or ban anyone.. hahaha, i love hearing from johnny, it's refreshing and wonderful. thank god for johnny.. haha
glenquagmire
12-03-2007, 06:53 PM
;20399']
besides, i can't imagine what you must've really done to piss johnny off, that's a big feat as johnny isn't one to kick or ban anyone.. hahaha, i love hearing from johnny, it's refreshing and wonderful. thank god for johnny.. haha
(steps away from toast while waiting for the lightning to strike)
I may amend the earlier rule to 2 paragraphs.
toastmonster[RS]
12-03-2007, 07:58 PM
i guess i'll have to tailor my thoughts down into a few words then.. i like the rule though glen, i definately didn't even try reading anything that kitty said.. not because she's a girl, but because i can't imagine anyone could have that much to say about a situation they didn't experience except through 3rd parties in the forums..
no lightning yet, btw
You were kicked, not banned. Suck it up and get over it. If you were kicked, you were most likely doing something wrong, so clean up your act and you're more than welcome to come back in the server. Follow the rules and you'll be fine. It's like going into another person's home; you follow that person's rules. What happens when you don't? You get kicked out, plain and simple. Don't like the rules? There's plenty of other servers out there you are free to visit.
Everyone's entitled to his or her opinion, whether it's bad, good, irrelevant, whatever. Though it'd be in his or her best interest to do so in moderation. Remember other people may or may not agree with your opinion and you may get unwanted responses.
Topic closed. If you have any future problems, you are welcome to start another thread. Cut the crap and leave the drama behind, we don't want it here.
Lurk
AskaniSon[RS]
01-02-2008, 09:57 PM
ok so being that i wasnt here, im an official outside opinion. blank is wrong, and knew it. he gloated from the start about knowing his secret, he had, in his mind, an exploit. no it doesnt give him an advantage or power really, but reading his post i can picture gargumel rubbing his hands together after finally catching a smurf.
now the fact that he at any point changed his name to tell off people who told him to get a real name and then changed it back shows he had no intention of changing it even if an admin had asked pretty please
also the fact that he quotes our rules, but fails to read them and understand them irks me. because he missed that whole part about racial or sexual slurs, cus he bragged about changing his name to f*****s, boy youre a charmer arent you.
Also, if you go into a server, and regulars tell you to do something or not do something, then you might want to listen, cus theyve been around the block, they know whats acceptable. Disrespecting them is in a way, disrespecting us.
Johnny, oh johnny, reading your posts brought a tear to my eye, out of all the things i missed over the last two months, you are at the top. Its like reading a story about mike tyson beating the shit outta a quadraplegic midget. Many people dont get you, just like some dont get randy, but you are awesome. to anyone who doesnt know, johnny is/was in law enforcement, he went to school, trained, and worked at investigating, accumulating evidence, and taking trash out. He doesnt often make mistakes, and id put my money on him over the other guy 999/1000. You may think hes a jerk or hates everyone, but after a while you just get good at reading people. Johnny doesnt need to let a guy start shooting bank tellers before he polietly asks them to stop, if he sees a guy walk into the bank with a mask and a gun out, hes gonna act, just like when i see a fat guy on a ladder with a chain saw leaning over to cut branches, i dont drive away, i get out my jump bag and sit in his driveway until he falls and cuts his lower arm off (last sat). The biggest problems johnny has are that he tends to let stress build up and carries over his anger from one incident to another(who doesnt from time to time) and that many of his own clan failed him by not standing by him as a leader and respecting/honoring his rank.
Rev, i was reading your post and couldnt stop laughing, typical rev, all i could picture was john madden doing the little thing where he draws on the screen like your play by play for the thread was great, and yellow Xs and Os and lines went all over.
then theres hellokitty1234. I was kinda shocked to see that defensive of a post from an app, personally i would veto on any one of your posts here, im gonna read more of your stuff, but thats some arrogant, ballsy shit to say to a group youre supposedly pledging to. I have little tolerance for ignorance, arrogance, vast generalizations, and disloyalty.
Lurk is an ugly BElf
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